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		<title>By: Teddypig</title>
		<link>http://www.teddypig.com/2009/03/got-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-1514</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddypig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess we can consider the one good thing is the sexism is pretty much gone due to the AIDS crisis. 

The gay community in San Francisco itself has changed so much between the time I first started going up there right after Harvey died till now that I feel ANCIENT. Castro Camera is gone. Welcome Home is gone. The Patio Cafe is gone. Hibernia Beach is gone. They got a Gap and a Starbucks and a Walgreens. 

Hell SOMA is even on it&#039;s last legs for the most part being turned into condos.

It&#039;s part of the reason I got out of there and moved my ass back across country. I handled the small changes but it was just getting too much and the community there is suffering. I think there might be What?... all of one lesbian bar left in San Francisco.

Maybe it is normal, maybe it is for the better but I find it disturbing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we can consider the one good thing is the sexism is pretty much gone due to the AIDS crisis. </p>
<p>The gay community in San Francisco itself has changed so much between the time I first started going up there right after Harvey died till now that I feel ANCIENT. Castro Camera is gone. Welcome Home is gone. The Patio Cafe is gone. Hibernia Beach is gone. They got a Gap and a Starbucks and a Walgreens. </p>
<p>Hell SOMA is even on it&#8217;s last legs for the most part being turned into condos.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s part of the reason I got out of there and moved my ass back across country. I handled the small changes but it was just getting too much and the community there is suffering. I think there might be What?&#8230; all of one lesbian bar left in San Francisco.</p>
<p>Maybe it is normal, maybe it is for the better but I find it disturbing.</p>
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		<title>By: AM Riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>AM Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, teddy.  I saw a lot of that, here in L.A. and there.  It really is shameful when a minority is stupid enough to indulge in sexism.  Men vs. women.  Women vs men.  Just stupid.  But the anti prop 6 campaign benefitted in a big way from the already militant lesbian community.  Partly because they were already so organized. (remember we&#039;d been pathetically trying to get the ill-fated ERA passed).  Milk himself used that network to help himself get elected, if I remember correctly.  And you are right, they did touch on that in the movie, if briefly (which was all the mention it needed.)  

When it came down to marching in the streets and putting oneself at risk, though, the women were definitely present, and I would have appreciated seeing a FEW more lesbians in those crowd scenes.

And now I&#039;m done whining about such piffling details.  It was a well produced movie that did justice to its subject matter and I was really happy to see it acknowledged by the Academy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, teddy.  I saw a lot of that, here in L.A. and there.  It really is shameful when a minority is stupid enough to indulge in sexism.  Men vs. women.  Women vs men.  Just stupid.  But the anti prop 6 campaign benefitted in a big way from the already militant lesbian community.  Partly because they were already so organized. (remember we&#8217;d been pathetically trying to get the ill-fated ERA passed).  Milk himself used that network to help himself get elected, if I remember correctly.  And you are right, they did touch on that in the movie, if briefly (which was all the mention it needed.)  </p>
<p>When it came down to marching in the streets and putting oneself at risk, though, the women were definitely present, and I would have appreciated seeing a FEW more lesbians in those crowd scenes.</p>
<p>And now I&#8217;m done whining about such piffling details.  It was a well produced movie that did justice to its subject matter and I was really happy to see it acknowledged by the Academy.</p>
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		<title>By: TeddyPig</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the movie gave a clue on that. 

I remember when I was first going up to Castro I thought it was strange but boys went to boy bars and girls went to girl bars. They only ever really met at the grocery store or the disco or if one of the local bars had a girls night.

Harveys crew obviously was made up of the old school queens so girls were icky back then. I only saw that attitude about not mixing really change during the AIDS crisis. 

But even now I have to admit I am careful about barging into a lesbian bar some of those places are hard core anti-men. I used to visit the Savoy when I first started coming out and they were like that. If you were a guy you had better know the bartender or some of those dykes were not happy you were there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the movie gave a clue on that. </p>
<p>I remember when I was first going up to Castro I thought it was strange but boys went to boy bars and girls went to girl bars. They only ever really met at the grocery store or the disco or if one of the local bars had a girls night.</p>
<p>Harveys crew obviously was made up of the old school queens so girls were icky back then. I only saw that attitude about not mixing really change during the AIDS crisis. </p>
<p>But even now I have to admit I am careful about barging into a lesbian bar some of those places are hard core anti-men. I used to visit the Savoy when I first started coming out and they were like that. If you were a guy you had better know the bartender or some of those dykes were not happy you were there.</p>
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		<title>By: AM Riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>AM Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The movie was very well produced and Sean Penn portrayed Milk so well at times I felt I was actually hearing him again.  I had tears in my eyes from the first scene.  The screen play fully deserved the award.  It dealt with all of the issues in a mature and compelling way. The characters were three dimensional and real.  Every single one of them.  The sound, which you probably didn&#039;t notice, was practically invisible because it was done so well.  

I had to wonder, though, as a person who campaigned tirelessly against prop 6, why so few women were portrayed in the movie?  I was there and the proportion of women to men portrayed in the movie was not realistic AT ALL and underscores my fear that lesbians are second class even while fighting for gay rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The movie was very well produced and Sean Penn portrayed Milk so well at times I felt I was actually hearing him again.  I had tears in my eyes from the first scene.  The screen play fully deserved the award.  It dealt with all of the issues in a mature and compelling way. The characters were three dimensional and real.  Every single one of them.  The sound, which you probably didn&#8217;t notice, was practically invisible because it was done so well.  </p>
<p>I had to wonder, though, as a person who campaigned tirelessly against prop 6, why so few women were portrayed in the movie?  I was there and the proportion of women to men portrayed in the movie was not realistic AT ALL and underscores my fear that lesbians are second class even while fighting for gay rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Alessia Brio</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watched it in bed last night. Fabulous movie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watched it in bed last night. Fabulous movie!</p>
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