Saw this over at Erec. More bad news.
Just be careful and aware out there guys…
Dear Ellora’s Cave, Where is my royalty check?
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Tuscan Capo wrote,
The official postage time is showing send dates that are contrary to EC assertions? Heavens say it ain’t so! I wonder if the post office has the same “problem” getting Mr. Engler, er, Mr. Keen, his letters from sweetie…
Link | June 20th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
SarahT wrote,
This kind of shit just gives RWA even more ammunition against epublishers. Shame on EC.
Link | June 20th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
TeddyPig wrote,
You know Sarah I thought that when I posted this.
Then I realized that it really is only places like Erec or Piers Anthony or Writers Beware and even me sometimes that you hear these things.
Where is EPIC or RWA?
No where!
Both orgs never have been because even when the RWA did recognize ePubs they were so worried about pissing off publishers and such and EPIC, shit, they are worse. People will argue that is because they provide networking where you might hear these things unofficially but that type of nonspecific chance driven information just does not cut it for me.
It is too bad but SFWA which does so much more and just comes across as all around more professional.
Cons
They require you be published because they really are a writers org.
They are famous for infighting.
Pros
They have the Writers Beware website.
Something no other writers org seems to be able to achieve by the way.
They have the membership voted for Nebula Award.
They provide Emergency Medical and Legal funding.
Seems clear to me that writing even a single SF book might not be a bad idea for a writer.
Link | June 20th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Mary Winter wrote,
Thank you so much for posting my link. Because of the silence of those other orgs, I wanted to share my story. I know it’s also the story of many others.
SFWA also has an advance requirement. They will not entertain inquiries from anyone not published with the authors on their published author list, and they’re notoriously rude to those publishers and authors who contact them. Sadly, they’re also just as backwards about epublishing. I met a recent former president of SFWA at a con and was told when I mentioned that I was epublished and quite happy, “oh, you write those books! You’d be better off just giving your work away.”
Link | June 20th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
SarahT wrote,
@TeddyPig: I truly believe RWA should be about informing ALL its members about ALL their options. Whether they’re epubbed or print pubbed, write erotic romance, mainstream or inspirational should be irrelevant. Basically, if we’re good enough to pay the annual dues, we’re good enough to be treated equally.
As far as I know, RWA keeps a tab on dodgy agents. Why don’t they keep a note of publishers behaving badly? Then let people decide for themselves if they want to sign with a particular publisher. It should be about educating members, not policing them.
As you say, SFWA seems to do a good job at looking out for its members. RWA wastes too much time and energy on politics and in-fighting. Honestly, every year they do something to piss people off and a bitchfest ensues. But nothing ever seems to change as a result.
Link | June 20th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Teddypig wrote,
Mary,
At least from what I have seen of their resources they do cover ePubs. So even if a member does not respect ePubs at least the organization attempts to provide information.
Link | June 20th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Mary Winter wrote,
True. And SFWA has the piracy group led by Andrew Burt of Critters (if I remember right). And I will fully admit that my opionion is also clouded by my local sf club, several of whom think that I write “just sex”. *grins*
Link | June 20th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Treva Harte wrote,
The DH, who adamantly refuses to write sex, can’t get into SFWA because the list of recognized publishers is fairly select. They don’t even respond to inquiries. So–if I understand it correctly –it’s great for the members, but you can’t join unless you fit a pretty rigid criteria.
Link | June 21st, 2009 at 5:01 am
Katie Reus wrote,
Hi, followed your link from ESPANs most recent blog and found your blog very entertaining. :) I’m a fairly new author with EC and just wanted to comment that the EC check payment schedule changed a couple months ago and anyone on the business loop should be aware of that since special notices were sent out. There is a two week window in which checks should arrive and that window is actually up today (June 22) so if someone hadn’t received their check last week, it wasn’t late.
I’m just one author and to date I’ve been lucky enough to receive all my checks from EC on time. I’m in no way saying that everyone else must receive theirs on time since I have, I just wanted to point out that checks aren’t considered late until after today :).
Link | June 22nd, 2009 at 10:52 am
TeddyPig wrote,
Well I don’t know Mary Winter’s business personally but I can tell you she has worked with several ePublishers so I am sure she understands what is in her contract since she has signed so very many and what the dates are she should be getting paid.
So I tend to trust what she has to say because she has far more experience in ePublishing than most people I know.
Link | June 22nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Katie Reus wrote,
It’s highly possible I read the message on the biz loop wrong. If I did, I stand corrected. Either way, I’m sorry someone isn’t getting paid on time. I’d be pissed too :)
Link | June 22nd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Mary Winter wrote,
Thanks Teddy. To follow up, the check did arrive today, however, by my calculations this ended on Friday. Had this been the first time, I would have considered this too soon. But since this has been happening very regularly for the last several months, and USPS tracking of the envelope proves they were mailed outside the windows we were told, (in addition to other contract violations), I will totally admit to being quite muntinous this weekend. Thanks!
Link | June 22nd, 2009 at 6:58 pm