Comments on: Spot The Loony http://www.teddypig.com/2009/08/spot-the-loony/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=spot-the-loony It's About eBooks Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:45:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Lauren http://www.teddypig.com/2009/08/spot-the-loony/comment-page-1/#comment-2432 Lauren Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:14:46 +0000 http://www.teddypig.com/?p=2055#comment-2432 You can't refute a personal story? Really? I beg to differ. In fact, I've refuted quite a few "personal stories" via cross examination and pretty much weekly when I ask about homework or whether someone may have hit a sibling. Moreover, true or not, a personal story is not science. There is a difference between personal recollection which is colored by memory, culture, degree of honesty and self-awareness and effect of others in one's circle - and scientific data. Perhaps the real problem here is that many of these folks is that they hate science and the entire process of scientific inquiry. Because to ask questions is, in essence to them, tantamount to treason against their beliefs. You know what? I don't care. I don't care if it's a choice or if it's biologically determined and I can't see why anyone else would either. Gay, straight, bi - whatever - the idea that anyone should be ashamed and simply NOT have a satisfying and whole romantic and sexual life because of what a neighbor thinks makes me sad for the people seeking help from places like Exodus and other programs like it. We have enough self loathing in the world, I can't see why it would be healthy to create more. You can’t refute a personal story? Really? I beg to differ. In fact, I’ve refuted quite a few “personal stories” via cross examination and pretty much weekly when I ask about homework or whether someone may have hit a sibling. Moreover, true or not, a personal story is not science. There is a difference between personal recollection which is colored by memory, culture, degree of honesty and self-awareness and effect of others in one’s circle – and scientific data.

Perhaps the real problem here is that many of these folks is that they hate science and the entire process of scientific inquiry. Because to ask questions is, in essence to them, tantamount to treason against their beliefs.

You know what? I don’t care. I don’t care if it’s a choice or if it’s biologically determined and I can’t see why anyone else would either.

Gay, straight, bi – whatever – the idea that anyone should be ashamed and simply NOT have a satisfying and whole romantic and sexual life because of what a neighbor thinks makes me sad for the people seeking help from places like Exodus and other programs like it. We have enough self loathing in the world, I can’t see why it would be healthy to create more.

]]> By: LBea http://www.teddypig.com/2009/08/spot-the-loony/comment-page-1/#comment-2407 LBea Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:03:16 +0000 http://www.teddypig.com/?p=2055#comment-2407 Good call, Sarah. Good call, Sarah.

]]> By: SarahT http://www.teddypig.com/2009/08/spot-the-loony/comment-page-1/#comment-2406 SarahT Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:12:46 +0000 http://www.teddypig.com/?p=2055#comment-2406 The sports coat is bad but the rictus on his face is even worse. I guess it comes from living a lie. The sports coat is bad but the rictus on his face is even worse. I guess it comes from living a lie.

]]> By: TeddyPig http://www.teddypig.com/2009/08/spot-the-loony/comment-page-1/#comment-2405 TeddyPig Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:39:48 +0000 http://www.teddypig.com/?p=2055#comment-2405 I guess they figure if they can sell their religious beliefs as science it will validate their hate speech and fear mongering so they can teach it to everyone's kids as sex education along with classes in creationism. I guess they figure if they can sell their religious beliefs as science it will validate their hate speech and fear mongering so they can teach it to everyone’s kids as sex education along with classes in creationism.

]]> By: mistry http://www.teddypig.com/2009/08/spot-the-loony/comment-page-1/#comment-2404 mistry Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:45:16 +0000 http://www.teddypig.com/?p=2055#comment-2404 Apart from having a vested (jacketed?) interest in the subject, dubious taste in clothing, and eyes set too closely together, the call to accept "personal experience" as proof of anything other than an individual's story, is .... ingenuous at best. The willingness/need to believe in something greater than ourselves may be part of being human, but it doesn't replace the need for empirical proof - particularly when the health (physical and mental) of someone is at stake. "I say so" is not an argument likely to sway me. p.s. If left-handedness is still considered such a problem world-wide, think of the other "problem groups" that need to be "fixed" ..... Apart from having a vested (jacketed?) interest in the subject, dubious taste in clothing, and eyes set too closely together, the call to accept “personal experience” as proof of anything other than an individual’s story, is …. ingenuous at best. The willingness/need to believe in something greater than ourselves may be part of being human, but it doesn’t replace the need for empirical proof – particularly when the health (physical and mental) of someone is at stake. “I say so” is not an argument likely to sway me.

p.s. If left-handedness is still considered such a problem world-wide, think of the other “problem groups” that need to be “fixed” …..

]]> By: LBea http://www.teddypig.com/2009/08/spot-the-loony/comment-page-1/#comment-2400 LBea Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:17:36 +0000 http://www.teddypig.com/?p=2055#comment-2400 I'm still floored by that sports coat. I’m still floored by that sports coat.

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